It's very dark and it's scary to think about wills but it's kind of like that is what you've got to do anyway in your life.
Exactly, you know, we were laughing about it because we have friends who have kids and they don't have a will. And my husband and I are like what do you mean you don't have a will? And then we were like oh I guess we do because we went through these weird situations and prepared for that. Where other families might not necessarily do that. There is lots of positive that comes out of it, we had this stuff prepared, but if you didn't go through it you might not have that.

So clearly, the next question is kind of moot, I mean, you would become a surrogate a second time because you did become a surrogate a second time.
We did, we did it a second time, and we are actually in the last couple of weeks have decided to do it a third time. We just put our profile out there so we are not matched or anything yet. It was a very long, drawn out conversation with my husband. He was like I don't know if I want to do it again. It takes a lot. For me, when I was younger, not that I'm old or anything, but when I was younger and I had my own kids it was quick recovery and it was fine. And then the last two deliveries, I think part of it, it was more difficult, you know, it was harder on my body. But this is the last time, we finally sat down and said alright, we will try, if we don't match we don't match but we will try it one last time and that's it for our family and we will feel like we have helped out the world and have done all we can and then we will go into a new chapter in our lives. We thought our last one would be our last journey but we said we would try one last time.

What was the deciding factor to try one last time? What were the pros and cons that you guys went through?
Well, my husband's no's were its difficult on the body, the kids are getting older, we want to focus on new things in our lives, you've been pregnant half our marriage, I just want to have some fun. But for this time around, since we did a sibling journey, it was more about our friends the last time and helping give them children and doing that. And this time, I don't want to sound bad, but this time around it was more about us. We are going to do a surrogacy, we know we could help out but the benefit that it would give our family, the extra money that it would help us out this time around, that kind of was the deciding factor. Before it was all about our friends. And this time we decided we could do it one last time and buy both girls braces and put a down payment on a car and go on a big vacation. So we said ok, we will do that because we did not do that with the others and so this time we thought we will try it out, we will see. If the universe wants us to do one last journey then we will, and if they don't then we are ok with that too. So we will just see what happens.